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musicaz
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musicaz
Posted 6 Years Ago
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we should be gratefull if the new iray render for iclone should take 15 minutes to render one frame is- that the point ? Cuz if you guys say so i am already gratefull indeed !!!! ?
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justaviking
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justaviking
Posted 6 Years Ago
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I have done some Iray exploration. It's been available to me for quite a while via Substance Painter and Designe, and now with CC3. I have rendered some fairly complex scenes with a mere 250 iterations (with denoise turned on ) that looked quite good. On my GTX 1080, the render times ranged from 2 minutes to a maximum of 6 minutes for the 250 iterations, depending on the composition of the shot. A 1,000-iteration render, taking 10-15 minutes, would look increadibly great. (And would be fine for a single image, but would be a long time for an animation.)
iClone 7... Character Creator... Substance Designer/Painter... Blender... Audacity... Desktop (homebuilt) - Windows 10, Ryzen 9 3900x CPU, GTX 1080 GPU (8GB), 32GB RAM, Asus X570 Pro motherboard, 2TB SSD, terabytes of disk space, dual monitors. Laptop - Windows 10, MSI GS63VR STEALTH-252, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 (6GB), 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD
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andrewlargin
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andrewlargin
Posted 6 Years Ago
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Sonic 7
Yes I mean that I cannot create what I want to alone and even if I could it would not be as interesting and efficient as doing it with other people
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andrewlargin
Posted 6 Years Ago
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Lamias that's what I wanted to see, the demo by Kevin S. At 8 mins there are some cogs turning and that is the most realistic in the video, pretty bloody good, good enough for me in terms of realism. As for the rest at least on a par with the best I have seen iclone do which is informative for me, thankyou. I agree about the coherence, I call it the way the whole thing blends together once you have assets of sufficient quality. Beyond me I'm afraid. Delerna - glad you watched it all, I think not many do
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sonic7
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sonic7
Posted 6 Years Ago
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Andrew, yes - doing it solo - difficult - when there's not others 'on-side' .... a test of one's fortitude for sure ....
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andrewlargin
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andrewlargin
Posted 6 Years Ago
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Sonic 7 - Been very good for me, learning this alone, dealing with computer problems, doing tutorials I don't understand and repeating them til I do. I have given up many times and come back to it as I got something to say and this language, video, is incredibly powerful. Whether I succeed or not doesn't matter as I have got more than ever thought out of it. I am not talking about my work so far which I'm happy with ……... for now, I'm talking about how I have never been this consistent in my approach to anything and this organised. I've now got basic skills so its beginning to be fun. I've had so many problems with the software and still get some crashes but its working and most importantly if it goes wrong I will problem solve it and fix it ………. or not. Some things (or many things) are out of my control so I get on with it. Its an important part of my life at the moment but I got many other things that interest me and many other things to do so hey ………… thanks iclone for everything and I hope to keep working with you but if it all goes tits up its been a blast.
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LarryPlane
Posted 6 Years Ago
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Cool thread. I really hope to create animated films using iClone, but two things hold me back, my lack of skill with using the software, and the cost of add ons such as the Essentials Pack for CC.
But really interesting reading you guys and watching your videos.
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Alan_M
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Alan_M
Posted 6 Years Ago
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musicaz (10/2/2018) we should be gratefull if the new iray render for iclone should take 15 minutes to render one frame is- that the point ? Cuz if you guys say so i am already gratefull indeed !!!! ?15 minutes is not the point. If you get into production rendering you will find you will get all sorts of per frame render times that are entirely dependant on the complexity of your scene, anything from mere seconds per frame all the way up to many hours per frame if you are so inclined. There is no hard and fast rule that says it will always take 15 minutes and that it. My comments were based on how I worked on projects. One of the nice features of Iray is the choice between iterations or seconds per frame. In Daz Studio I simply do test renders to determine the level of quality for the image I want and then set that number of seconds for each frame to cook. The thing here is to check the image to see if it has issues, 120 second render may end up with too much noise in it to be acceptable. Of course you can use de-noising but that itself can cause problems so you need to get your own pre-sets that work for you. I do my best with projects to keep each frame's render time around a maximum of 15 minutes, so if the image looks good at that time frame then that would be the maximum I would use. So in seconds that would be 900. That is what is really nice, you simply say render each frame for 900 seconds and then move on. It is a great way of rendering as you know exactly when your render will finish as it is easy to calculate. I have other more complex render tests that have easily hit 40 minutes per frame on my GTX 1080 so as always you need to do tests and optimisations before you set an extensive animation going. Also, remember that in production people use render-farms or at a minimum, like my situation here, more than one machine for final rendering. If you rely on one machine for all your needs, and yes I know that the best performance is on your GPU, then larger more complex projects will take a very long time to deliver. Don't be discouraged to leave your machine on at night when you go to bed, If it is not doing anything then get it rendering, by the morning you will have another batch of frames to play with.
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andrewlargin
Posted 6 Years Ago
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Has anyone used this, the Rome Fantasy Pack I for iClone. It was a long time ago but I think it was one of the reasons I bought iclone. Its a bit washed out so it could be misleading but it looks good, maybe one of the most realistic things I have seen. So has anyone bought it and used it and what it like with avatars in it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGhZg80yc2Y
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animagic
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animagic
Posted 6 Years Ago
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3d guy1 (10/1/2018) Unfortunately when I think of Iclone - I think of the standard " Iclone look ".
Inartistic, amateur hour!You can't blame the software for that.
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