RAG DOLL COLLISION ANIMATIONS FOR ICLONE 8 & 7
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Ghost Origins

My latest Feature length film created with Iclone.

My IMDB listing
Anabran Abdhul Quarnain - IMDb

I think they need the DS clothing and the sets much more than they need the characters.


"Less clicks good, more clicks bad."

No. The amount of Daz content and the fact there is new stuff everyday, on discount and the freebies means I will continue using daz for a long while.

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I’ve been wondering this myself after seeing the great CC3 video recently. Daz has 3 main qualities.

1. Price. This can be nullified by the sometimes time consuming import process but once that learning curve is behind you, WOOOW. Daz prices, even with recent price hikes, are the among the best in the world for the level of content they offer.

2. Library size. I don’t need to talk much about this. New high quality content daily... daily. Reallusion won’t match that soon. Clothes are importable in CC3 so we’ll see what happens.

3. Quality. Iclone content has come a very long way and looks great now, but Daz characters, clothing, props and sets are of an amazing quality once you learn how to import them properly. IMO their characters look a little bit better than Iclone characters right now and tend to be just a little bit less cartoony. I personally love the Genesis aesthetic.

For me, CC is more likely to become a part of my tool bag (which it currently isn’t) but not replace Daz entirely.

Price and library size are the deciding factors for me.

RAG DOLL COLLISION ANIMATIONS FOR ICLONE 8 & 7
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Ghost Origins

My latest Feature length film created with Iclone.

My IMDB listing
Anabran Abdhul Quarnain - IMDb

You didn't ask the question of someone like me (who does and will do all his final renders in iClone) but from my perspective the problem with using Daz characters is the inability to "redress" them (without going through the entire import process again).  The beauty of CC (regardless of what version 3 brings to the table) is I can use all of Daz clothing inside of it, and thus any character I create I can easily recostume just by bringing them back into CC (so a few minutes versions a much longer Daz export/iClone import process).

To me the only time I'd actually import a Daz character is if it's standalone -- a robot, or monster or perhaps a red shirt (you know, the kind of background guy you'll be killing off soon :>.  But, as I said, I'm not who you asked the question of, just wanted to put my two cents in here because I think even reoutfitting a character in Daz is a PITA compared to CC.

I also have more Daz content, both clothing and sets, than I could ever use in my lifetime (limited as it might be).  But I'm writing python routines to make the import much easier.

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RAG DOLL COLLISION ANIMATIONS FOR ICLONE 8 & 7
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Ghost Origins

My latest Feature length film created with Iclone.

My IMDB listing
Anabran Abdhul Quarnain - IMDb

There are a TON of tutorials on bringing Daz clothing into iClone (including the three or four I've done).  Here's one:



But I've since improved my workflow and subsequent videos show this (so if you are at all interested either look for others on the web or my channel).

Now -- CC3 supposedly will speed even *this* process up (although it takes me less than five minutes to bring in AND physics weight nearly any Daz item).  What is shown will allow the OBJ to be directly imported (I'll still be first bringing it into Blender to use my Consolidate Materials script, which is even better now that it imports roughness and metallic maps).  So when that happens a whole lot of folks will be using Daz clothing in CC that aren't currently now (although no one should be afraid of doing it now - the only *real* problem right now is with "rigid" things, like armor plates, which CC can't really handle properly).

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Mike "ex-genius" Kelley

Great question, certainly a wait and play. The posts above regarding quality and price of Daz products were well said.

Competition and compatibility would be king for RL, Daz and 3D Artists with them trying to stay on top of their game and competitive on price. A hard drive of DAZ models with DS animation limitations and forever renders lead me to RL, then RL's lower quality and pricey content lead me back to DAZ. Made this round-trip several times over the last several years.

CC3 Looks very promising, if RL gets us closer to DS than Second Life characters, with GoZ, clothing weight-maps and fits as implied, CC3 will be the 'Character Creator' and Daz will likely be a place to get clothing..in my studio.

It's a great time to be in the 3D character design and animation business.




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RAG DOLL COLLISION ANIMATIONS FOR ICLONE 8 & 7
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Ghost Origins

My latest Feature length film created with Iclone.

My IMDB listing
Anabran Abdhul Quarnain - IMDb