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[NEWS!] SIGGRAPH 2017 - FACEWARE UPDATE

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Good News! The iClone 7 Facial Mocap Plugin - Faceware RT is finally available in September. 

Partnership between Reallusion and Faceware Technologies Inc
Reallsuion is connecting with the industry-leading motion capture providers to iClone 7 delivering a face mocap solution that is quick, adaptable to existing pipeline and works with specialty pro helmets.

Faceware Live & Faceware RT
Faceware Live is the real time facial motion capture software which is developed by Faceware Technologies Inc, it is used for tracking performer's face and instantly applying that performance to a custom character. 
  • Faceware Live - local ($2,745)
  • Faceware Live - server ($4,125)
Faceware RT for iClone 7 is a totally independent face mocap tool that uses a PC Cam and iClone 7 to achieve real-time facial motion capture recording. 
Notwithstanding, Reallusion will provide special discount to its member exclusively:
  • 3-in-1 Bundle: Faceware RT + iClone Facial Mocap Plugin + iClone7 Pipeline  (Regular price $1,500)
  • 2-in-1 Bundle: Faceware RT + iClone Facial Mocap Plugin (Regular price $1,190)

iClone 7 Faceware RT

Actually, there is many functions could be find in iClone Faceware RT, and below is some of the key features:
  • Compatible with Standard 3D Characters
  • Custom Character Import 
  • Two Face Simultaneous Capture
  • Features-based Capture and Imported Image Sequence.
  • Face Mask for Selected Capture 
  • Optional Mocap Mouth Blend with Audio Lip-sync Viseme
  • Refinement & Face Key Timeline Editing 
  • Export Character Morph Animation via FBX
The iClone Facial Mocap Plugin will be launched in September, please stay tune with Reallusion for the introductory special offer to RL members.

For more detail, please refer to the blog link: https://blog.reallusion.com/2017/07/31/real-time-face-and-body-mocap-for-iclone-7-at-siggraph-2017/


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So if I understand this correctly, the "normal" price for those of us who already have Pipeline would be around $1200, but there will be a special "introductory" price announced "soon" (so sometime before September?  Or at least before release in September?)

Traditionally RL has offered things at around 20-25% off the "normal" price (sometimes MUCH higher, like 50%, but never less than 20).  So I'm guessing we are looking at a starting price around $700 to just under $1K.  I would hope for that price this is STUPENDOUS (certainly much better than anything Adobe has for their own "free" (free with cloud) face capture stuff).  I fully expect this to be a turnkey facial capture system that requires little, if any, post capture cleanup.



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Thank you Joe! Can't wait the pre-order ! Have a nice Siggraph show too!!
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Perhaps either Joe or someone at Siggraph can comment on this: do you HAVE to use a "PC Cam" in order to do the mocap for iClone, or will a video source (pre-recorded) be acceptable?

I'm guessing this will be a case where the FW plugin can't be installed on more than one machine (like iClone can -- you can have it on your laptop as well as your desktop).  If so, those of us that will normally use it on our desktops will have a PITA when it comes to trying to record actors remotely (out and about).  It would be nice for that much money to be able to use *any* video source for the capture.



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 Reallsuion is connecting with the industry-leading motion capture providers to iClone 7 delivering a face mocap solution that is quick, adaptable to existing pipeline and works with specialty pro helmets.


If it works with specialty helmets, it should work with any cam.  Those helmets usually have GoPro or similar cameras attached.  Can also use pre-recorded video http://renderositymagazine.com/reallusion-partners-with-faceware-xsens-at-siggraph-cms-1343
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Yeah, but that's not really my question -- what I want to know is if it will work with any VIDEO.

All the examples of FW head mounted  GoPro cam show it hardwired into the computer.  That is NOT what I want -- as I said, if we only have one license linked to a machine (which will be my desktop) I will have problems recording stuff remotely.  What I want to know is if it can take a video that has been pre-recorded.



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Looks like it... I imagine there will be a "calibrate face" you need to record at the start of all clips, like the T pose we do for body mocap.
  • Live Face Capture and Imported Image Sequence
    • Use PC cam, GoPro or ProHD cameras to capture face motion
    • Record actors remotely via video camera and use for the face mocap source
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https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/299d151a-7e5e-4dd5-a48c-5393.png

So, you will have to convert your video into an image sequence...
But that should not be the problem BigGrin
Sounds good but the costs are for the moment too high for me...



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I imagine you'll need to capture a "face calibrate" at the start of each video clip... like the T pose for body mocap.  Exciting times!  I see FaceRig has teamed up with Noitom - another (and cheaper) face capture solution could be just around the corner! (pure speculation on my part ;-)
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Here is one group of questions, for me, that if answered will either make this of value, or not of value.  I would want to hear an answer from RL, itself. 

Daz character, brought into 3DXchange and made into an iAvatar, with no issues and under all the optimal circumstances (exported from Daz with Facekey, etc).

Will this iAvatar character have, through use of the Faceware plugin:
(1) Facial Mocap abilities identical to that of CC iAvatar
(2) Facial Mocap abilities not same as that of CC iAvatar 

And if #2, what are differences?  Workarounds?



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