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1 thing wish I could make in iClone are ocean waves but with the curls and crashes with that foam white.
Please share your technique if anyone ever tried to make this in iClone:




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Realistic water is the acid test for any 3D program -- AFAIK no program, not even the higher end ones, can really do this right (although some come closer than others).

In Max we'd use plugins but we'd also take Real World images of the foam and super them on the tops, which helps a lot.  I suspect the same techniques could be employed in iClone, using PopVideo (or other such) billboards positioned on the top and moved along accordingly.  Doing 3D water well will take a LOT of resources for any machine.





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As Kelley suggests, I have used a video similar (or the same...) as you posted as background.

I placed them on several slightly curved planes (with the image of every second one reversed so the edges fit seamless). I then added the regular iClone water. It worked pretty good.

One suggestion has been to have Alembic import. This would allow you the use wave simulations from Houdini, for example, which are among the best.


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As Kelley suggests, I have used a video similar (or the same...) as you posted as background.

I placed them on several slightly curved planes (with the image of every second one reversed so the edges fit seamless). I then added the regular iClone water. It worked pretty good.

One suggestion has been to have Alembic import. This would allow you the use wave simulations from Houdini, for example, which are among the best.

It comes down to making look good within a certain camera angle range, that's good enough for me.


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1 thing wish I could make in iClone are ocean waves but with the curls and crashes with that foam white.
Please share your technique if anyone ever tried to make this in iClone:

perhaps that problem can be solved using the morph feature in iclone 7 ..
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If you add a video to the diffuse of water waves with white parts like the image below on a dense grid plane with a low contrast version to play as a displacement map video simultaneously, that makes for some interesting effects. All the white parts crest and gives a really amazing 3D looking water.
https://forum.reallusion.com/uploads/images/7cd22a9f-248a-4145-bddb-2f88.jpg


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i have found this subject to be the one area lacking in making a realistic movie with iclone…….ocean water is desperately needed within iclone and some kind of intergration with houdini or similar bifost product may be the only answer.  ive tried everything and nothing is realistic enough.

maybe if we had the ability to use modifiers like in other 3d apps we would have a solution too.

if i come up with anything i will post.  RAMPAs freebiw could be a good water tile start, check it out to work on.



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