Rampa, in my experience both are important depending on what you use in your scenes, NVidia cards work with some kind of particle crap, which I don't use. I bought both type cards AMD also, but I usually bough the card who gave me the most for the money. I've been buying mostly AMD video cards, because it was easier for me to look at the numbers, and to see which ones were more powerful, where it seemed like NVidia cards had hundreds of models just like their processors and wasn't that that simple choosing the top model to somewhere in between.. To be specific using iClone when I went from a video card with 1 GB of RAM, to 2 GB of RAM, the only difference I saw was that I could smoothly pan around inside of my scenes, and when I went to a 8 GB Video card, it didn't solve the problem I had with the cars I bought from Big Boss, who told me I need at least 5 GB of RAM. Again it was something in the wheels of some cars that was slowing my playback choppy. I also read after I got the 8MB video card, that only 4 GB worked unless I had two 4K monitors, which I don't. To say that the Video card is the most important thing I will have to disagree. I can buy a 1080 card, and I would not be able to add more avatars, which was the most important thing to me if I only had 32 GB of mother board RAM. Also if you don't have the right processor on your motherboard, or the right motherboards you cannot use all the streams even if you have a NVidia 1080 Video card. The thing I want to point out, It's just not that simple to say the Video card is the most important. Other than panning around my scenes I've seen no difference in video quality from 1 GB to 8 GB with 3 different cards. The only difference I see is with the MP4 video encoder that came with iClone 4 & 5, and poor one with iClone 6, which gives me a smaller file. It's the reason I will probably not buy iClone 7, because they are not telling us what their output formats will be. I would love to see a H.265 or that they improved their mp4 (H.264) encoder. But I'm going to stick to PNG sequential until iClone stops crashing during rendering. As I said here for the first time, the only improvement I've seen on two different top of the line AMD to almost top of the line Intel system, is that with my video cards, I've only see a improvement when I'm panning while I'm working on a project. It doesn't stutter like with the 1 GB video card. To see what motherboard RAM does. I put two videos on YouTube, one with 64 GB of RAM on my motherboard. After I added all the lights that you see in the second video, I was only able to add 4 more avatars before the animation playback was off time with the music, and with the last avatar, I could not add puppet animation to it. It wouldn't activate. After I added 32 GB more of RAM for a total 96 GB, I was able to add puppet animation to that avatar. But after even that the playback was still a little off with the audio. The next day I maxed out my motherboard with 128 GB of RAM, I added more Avatars some of which you can barely see because they are in the shadows upstairs, and including a couple of CC characters, and I feel I can add a lot more because nothing has slowed down. There is no way the video card can do this. What would I get if upgraded to NVidia 1080? Nothing extra, I guarantee that. Even if it made my avatars and scenery sharper, once I output it to the video encoders iClone provides for us, we lose it. I compared a MP4 encoding to PNG Sequential converted to a mp4 with a good MP4 encoder, and the difference most people will not notice. In my conclusion a video card is important, but not as important as the RAM on the motherboard. These two videos on You tube show what 64GB of RAM compared to 128 GB RAM can do, and I could have added a lot more things to the scene, but I chose to stop here because I'd be blocking all the work I did. Now can anyone here show me on You tube or on here, how your project looks different on a let's say NVidia 1070 compared to a NVidia 1080? You can't. So most important? I don't think so. My new video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TQlDD6EXRs
Older video with a nearly 64GB of RAM limitation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMfEQudj0OQ
both under rioleo8. Motherboard RAM prices seem to have risen since October. DDR4 Memory for 32 GB is around $200. Now and this is my interpretation that this is what Rampa is saying? If you bought 32GB of RAM for $200 and a NVidia GTX 1080 card which goes for about $600, it's more important. I'm saying if you bought a $200 video card and use 96 GB of RAM $600, it's the only way you could have added those Avatars and moving props in my project. I guarantee if I bought a GTX 1080 card, removed half my RAM memory and back to this project to a earlier saved date, add then one Avatar at a time, and before I reach to where I am now, I guarantee when I add avatar motions, it will grey out or not function. Now I know no one will do something as time wasting putting their old video card in their computer, but if you have a electronics or computer programming background you should know this. The proof is on YouTube, right in front of your eyes, and if I didn't state what video card I have, you wouldn't know what I have. Now that's my conclusion. I want to know what Rampa saw where he came to his conclusion that the Video card in his view is the most important thing in his projects so everyone can take notes and decide what works best for them. Let me make one thing clear, I'm not one of those AMD vs Intel guys. I want to get the most for my money. If Rampa or anyone here can prove to me by showing that having a GTX 1080 card stops my iClone from crashing, improves my mp4 encoding, I'll buy one tomorrow. I posted my results, for all to see, not theory everything works on paper or a blackboard. Is a GTX 1080 card worth paying $600 I really want to know. I'm showing everyone what I get with 64 GB of RAM and 128 GB RAM. I'm not here to argue put anyone down. I really want a reason to get the GTX 1080, but for myself I don't think it will change anything. Years ago someone told me the women in the Dominican Republic look better than the ones in Brazil. After sending him 100's of photo's of those I took photos of in Brazil, I got all kinds of excuses except any photos. I'm from Missouri when I don't believe things, I'm 66 and electronics has been my thing since 8. Sorry but that's the way I am, If I tell you something works like this, I will show you and I expect the same. If I don't know, I don't know and will tell you so. All I'm saying if you are going to say that video cards are the most important part of your computer system, I like to know how you came to this conclusion and based on how it affects the projects we work on iClone, and can you tell me what differences I will observe spending $400 for a GTX 1080? I have shown the difference between spending $400 on RAM. So what's the difference in spending $400 more on a video card, I guess that is my question, and can you show me?
Home built; ASRock X570 Pro 4, AMD Ryzen 9-390X CPU, ASUS GTX-1080 TI, 11GB OC video card, 131GB of RAM.
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