I am all for as much realism in animation that I can get and I agree with pumeco that jiggles are necessary in any or all body parts to get that realism, maybe I want a big nose and fat cheeks to jiggle when a character moves his head for instance.  I can get close with a DAZ character if I add the body part bone movements in the timeline then use 3DX custom slots to animate them, but this is very time consuming and very hard to line up with a walk animation in iClone for instance.  I have had some limited success with breast, chest, tummy and butt jiggles this way but like I said... very time consuming.  I've not had much luck with spring effects in iClone6, some work but most don't, they seem to loose something in the transition from 3DX to iClone for me even if I max all the settings in 3DX.

@pumeco, I'm with you brother, humans jiggle, animals jiggle, but women jiggle more and we should be able to show the jiggles wherever we want, even love handles!




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@rampa
As the influence is taken from the weight map of the bone, then I already "got it" long ago
It's just a certain sw00000plish-speaking character didn't understand English.

The answer to my question was dead easy all along, the answer is that a spring bone gets it's influence information from the weight map of the bone.
That's all he needed to say - lol


@Snarp
Cheers mate, that's exactly the sort of enthusiasm I was hoping everyone would have for this feature
And yup, so many uses for it, not just babes!


@sw00000p
Sorry, but you're doing that Max thing again, not intertested in Max especially when it can be done it DAZ
Honestly sw00000p, it was like getting blood out of a stone - weight map of the bone is the answer!

Grrrrrrrrr 

Well at least you don't deny it, that's something to be thankful for

In Dire Need, indeed.



The question is...
Will people wait that long for these char anim necessities?

The longer people wait...the more they learn Daz Studio or Blender skinning... the more they think the unthinkable...




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Good tips here from Wendy (and animagic)
What's up with the AML and LUA situation? Any update?



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Hey I'm sure I'll get over it, sw00000p, but I'm actually pretty pissed-off about what you did


@Bella
Spot-on, that's exactly why I'm not holding my breath for any specific feature to appear, not even this one.  I hope they do appear, and I think some of them will appear, but it's always reassuring to think that if these necessities don't appear in iClone for whatever reason, they are already there in Blender.  Just the other week they officially added Anamorphic DOF (something I desperately want) to Blender and it works simply and perfectly.  It's just a single control they added to 2.77 that equals complete awesomeness cause it means Blender can now look truly cinematinc in every possible sense.  Now that Blender has it, people will use it, which in turn will eventually cause people using other programs to start ranting at the developers of their chosen software cause their DOF looks like crap compared to Blender.  It'll take some time for people to realise what they're seeing, but it will happen.   It's the same with something like this, the jiggle stuff.  If RL were to implement it so that it was as easy as selecting a bone and painting the juggle influence, you would see not just better, much more natural looking animation, but an influx of users who are seeing the results on YouTube etc.

We all know what YouTube is like, so can you imagine what it would do for Reallusion's sales statistics if our figures jigged like this?

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Let me give you a few examples of what the YouTube comments would go like (and bear in mind you can pretty much guarantee this would be the case) :

- OMG i think i just died!!!!
- help plz... i need this software where can i get it?
- I'll second that question, where can we get that software?!?!?
- what is name of sofware plz? ....... plz tell me I need to know thnx
- I need this in my life!
- This is a gamechanger folks, your animations will look so much better now this is in place!
- Hey guys and gals, this is done with iClone software, you can get it on reallusion.com so just download the demo and you will definitely buy it ...hahaha!!!
- Awesome!
- lol
- is it free?
- No dumbass, it's not free, but who cares when it does stuff like that, right?
- Yeah, he's right dude!
- I am happy to support this software thankyou reallusion you are the best.....
- I'm so buying this ...
- WOAH!!!!!!
- My GF jiggles like that
- Hey guys I just bought it .. you should def check it out ... best software ever!
- Already did .lol. and I agree
- Easy to do as well, you just paint where you want it to jiggle :-D
- In realtime as well peeps!
- yeah why can't all software be as easy as this?
- who needs real women?
- ya ... this is the future.
- I uploaded a jiggle video I made with this thing and it got like over a thousand views in just two hours :-D
- reallusion must be gods for making software as good as this - cuz I think it's awesum
- My GF just dumped me and I don't care .. that can't be right!
- haha :-D
- they are having a sale so if ur quick you will get it for a good price
- hey it said they have only got one million copies left so you better be quick about it guys
- Cheers man!
- Bought this as soon as they released it, best purchase ever!!!!!!
- plz help I cant make it jiggle :-(
- help plz is urgant .....
- Activate teh bone first you idiot!!
- ok that worked tnx :-D
- your welcome bro!

Now what we all (especially RL) really need to ask ourselves is, can Reallusion really afford to dismiss all those potential customers that are the result of just one video on YouTube?
Well ok then ... if you say so ... I'm just supporting my request as best I know how

I hope the attached GIF is ok for on here.  Wasn't sure to be honest but basically I chose the best clothed GIF I could find, so she is clothed, I'm just not 100% sure if it's ok (but hope it is)
If it's not then Peter will no doubt edit it out, but hopefully not me as well in the process

I just could not tear my eyes away from that for a few minutes, not necessarily because I wanted to see it!

@Wendy
I know what you mean, it's just beautiful, I can't take my eyes off it either which further reinforces the attraction of this stuff to an audience, whether they expect it or not


@JJJAM
Of course I do, that's why I posted it.  As I've said before, my own personal reasons for wanting it is simply to stop the figures looking like cardboard, or "wooden" as the saying goes.  I even started-out the thread using my own reasons for wanting it, but there's no denying that if such a feature existed, it's existence would find much more entertaining usage than I had planned for it

Might as well point out that aspect of it too, cause after all, those are all customers who would likely never have looked twice at iClone otherwise, they probably would never even have heard of it had they never clicked on that thumbnail on the YouTube video.  The comments are basically an example of how very desirable things can easily go viral, and such things can work wonders for sales