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| Stuckon3d,
Very well done animation...looks good seeing where it begins and where it's going. Kind of like a reversed bloopers reel.
* one a side note...nice signature icon you have there Duchess...
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| Hi guys,
thanks again for the comment, here is pass number 3, I did a little more motion refinement and some camera work, now that I have this, I can see where I need to spend the most time in crazy talk doing facial animation, which will be on the closeups of course. I also did this lense reflection shot that I really liked but it is hard to see on the youtube video.
Hope you like it,
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| It DOES just keep getting better.
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| warlord (9/11/2008)
It DOES just keep getting better.
thanks warlord, I try to keep improving it but the progress is slow on weekdays, I can only put a couple of hours a day every other day, I get home too tired from work. But I love doing this so being a little "tired" is not going to stop me.
This little motion test is begining to evolve into a story, this will be episode 2. It will all make sense once I put the audio this weekend. 
Here is motion test number 4, I added a some laser beams to the bot so the fight it is not so one sided, I also added some interactive lighting for the particles.
Hope you guys like it,
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| Excellent character animation, great use of SFX, good cinematography.....bad cemera ease in/ease out. Shame on RL
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| Great animation, dude.
iClone's canned motions are stellar, either with characters or props (the horse motions are a good example) but what drives me batty are these robotic looking moves people put into their videos - I just keep thinking- There has GOT TO BE a better way. Because you can have the best story line and the best scenes and the best characters and you throw-in one robotic move for a live character and the whole thing caves in. It's the loss of suspension of disbelief. If a character doesn't move naturally, it throws the audience off. When I see a human I expect it to move like a human - not a robot.
While this may have been good-enough when iClone was first introduced, it doesn't cut it anymore. We have more sophisticated scenes, story lines, and characters - they need to move in a more sophisticated way, OR the people using iClone need to learn to edit around it in order to create more compelling content.
End of Rant.
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| Anim8torCathy (2/28/2009)
Great animation, dude.
iClone's canned motions are stellar, either with characters or props (the horse motions are a good example) but what drives me batty are these robotic looking moves people put into their videos - I just keep thinking- There has GOT TO BE a better way. Because you can have the best story line and the best scenes and the best characters and you throw-in one robotic move for a live character and the whole thing caves in. It's the loss of suspension of disbelief. If a character doesn't move naturally, it throws the audience off. When I see a human I expect it to move like a human - not a robot.
While this may have been good-enough when iClone was first introduced, it doesn't cut it anymore. We have more sophisticated scenes, story lines, and characters - they need to move in a more sophisticated way, OR the people using iClone need to learn to edit around it in order to create more compelling content.
End of Rant.
Cathy
Hi Cathy,
thank you for the comment and the rant. I think the reason you see so many robotic like movements, is because people are not animators by nature. It take a lot of hard work to become an animator and while motion capture data is great for single cut scenes, if you need to string a few motions together, that is when the robotics kick in. The key to smooth out the transitions between two mocap actions like from punch to kick to block for example is using Iclone's "motion layer" feature. It is a very powerful feature that really helps, but it is just a tool for the artist not a miracle maker. You still need to understand the principals of motion like Action reaction anticipation. There are alot of great books and dvds tutorials out there. I have a few of them, but the best teacher like Miyamoto Musashi saids "the way is in training". So practice, practice, practice. I have a motion test 5 in my drive that I have not posted yet, which I think is a great improvement from motion test four but I dont want to post it until im done with the facial animation, but I put this little project in the back burner so that I could developed a high-end look for iclone backgrounds as seen on my "Art work in progress" link below. Now that I have done that, I will finish that scene and combine it with what I have learned from my motion tests to make the kind of animations I always wanted to make with the quality I wanted. I also believe that the skin on the characters in iclone still have some room for improvement, which is going to be my next development cycle after I release a few highend background construction kits for fella Icloners out there. They will be plug and play for newbies and super flexible for advanced users out there. It took several months of development, but I think I have the perfect balance of beauty and performance. Btw, the street scene is going to be the bonus content for the first pack im going to release in April. More info will be available as we approach the release date.
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| Hey stuckon -
I'm in complete agreement with you. And I really applaud your willingness and diligence to raise the bar on iClone project quality. The reason I have yet to post anything beyond 'Samurai Door' a few years ago is that I have not been able to create anything I am impressed with that meets my vision and standards of what animation could look like using this program. But I do believe it is possible, so I continue to experiment and test out new ideas. As more and better content is released from Reallusion it is hard NOT TO dream of higher quality animations using this software.
Cathy
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| Im having a bit of a hard time creating smooth motions. Do you rely on the frames to set your motions or do you rely on time? For instance do you make motions between a certain number of seconds or frames?
Is there an advantage to using director mode for motions? |
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