Nice to see you're taking serious consideration of my request, by the way the names Sifr(cipher), not Sirf.

This is the cloth/hair dynamics controllers from the company that invented it.http://http.download.nvidia.com/developer/SDK/Individual_Samples/MEDIA/Video/Samples/Cloth.wmv http://developer.download.nvidia.com/SDK/10/direct3d/Source/Cloth/doc/Cloth.wmv.  These controllers can be adjusted to effect hair and cloth with wind volocity peramitters and automaticly calculated collision detection.

The following links are to give the forum members an idea of what tools are available in realtime rendering advancements so as to understand what has already been achievedhttp://http.download.nvidia.com/developer/SDK/Individual_Samples/samples.html, where realtime stands todayhttp://developer.download.nvidia.com/SDK/10/direct3d/samples.html, and where it's headedhttp://www.reallusion.com/iclone/. 

Download the full SDK for Drect X 10http://developer.nvidia.com/object/sdk_home.html and Direct X 9 on downhttp://developer.nvidia.com/object/sdk-9.html,so you can give all of the available tools a spin for yours.  Which ever ones don't load means your graphics card, not your entire computer is obsolete to these advancments, you may have to upgrade, but this is the best way to test your graphics card for everything available in terms of realtime rendering.  Visconti, Reallusion should also seriously consider upgrading their renderer to utilize the latest Direct X 10 advancments featured in the link above.

Sifr Allah

Working on a scene of "The Gate...." one particular scene has very detailed close ups of a sequence that involves flight using the 4 section animted wings I use for the Woodlander people.

For the wings I use the standard iClone Architecture model Paper_A found in PROPS > TEMPLATE > 3D SURFACE >

This is the ONLY item that  works beautifully for wings in that it
a) Reshapes when using the SCALE > "Y" Control during the animation.
b) Will animate by adjusting this according to the speed and direction of the wing mapped to it thus giving a superb illusion of stress.

By increasing the Y value the "wing" can stress according to the speed it flaps.
NOTHING else in your entire collection has this valuable property.

What I would dearly like is
1) To have the object duplicated with its reverse twin.
That is, an opposite of it so that left wings can curl upper-right-down-left and the left wings curl upper-left-down-right breaking the symetry you get when attempting this with the simgle plane.
If we could have an opposite of Paper_A the solution would be simple.

Also if the existing paper_A had the facility to use inverse values, that is, when Scale(Y) gets to zero, flat, and then went into negative -001 ++ etc the desired effect would result in the same solution and we could have inverted wings on the other side with the one model.

The benefit of THIS solution is that on a down stroke the wings could stress/curve upwards and on the up stroke would then flex oppositely.

So in summary, an inverse or opposite of Paper_A please.
Armstrong.

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