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Posted 11/8/2009 4:36:41 AM


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Outstanding and imaginative. I particularly like the farm, but it all blends so well.

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Posted 11/8/2009 5:03:01 AM


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Beautiful work and it looked so real. Thanks for sharing your talent.

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Posted 11/8/2009 7:08:17 AM


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Bravo Neil.

I would go as far to say this is the best piece of work I have seen produced in iClone from someone outside of Reallusion or even better than those. I too believe it took you 10 months to put this complilation together as I work in editing etc.It is very time consuming.

Your scenes are truely excellent. It was a masterpiece the way you have used the cameras and your choice of music brings all your scenes to life. Great job. It is obvious that this has taken you a lot of hours to bring to life.

Once again Bravo!!!!!!

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Posted 11/8/2009 7:17:43 AM
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Breathtaking ,awesome.     Truly something for people like me to aspire to..as if!!

Thank you for being a inspiration .

Les

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Posted 11/8/2009 9:43:42 AM


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Hi People...

Thanks for the positivity.
No, the Wheels dont roll yet!  And the waggons judder a bit also but in the finals for the MCPE (which is their purpose in existence) they should roll.............. hopefully............... and the waggons will be flower laden as well.

LOST HIS HORN?
Also, I looked at the unicorn and for a moment I thought he had lost his Masculine trait as well.   But he just wears it high!   (Laughs) It IS there. All the mares are most impressed.
The Mare doesn't have a horn, as Unimares don't.

US STATES CANT SEE MY SERVERS!!!
Also, theres a really wierd issue regarding some US States unable to see this server which is wierd as it's Europes fastest bestest everything. I'll speak to the HQ here but I suspect its more local to those who cannot see it.
MAYBE, because the movie is 100 megs? Maybe, thought I wouldnt think restrictions on volume downloading would apply.

CACHING!
If the movie stops half way through you'll find clearing local cache and refeshing the page will prompt a new download. I thinik as a matter of common protocol to all iClone ANimators, this should be a standard.
Clear cache, and reload, because sometimes, because it has to run through so many servers, a blip will damage receipt of segment or similar and the download stops. I get this alot from China.

For those who cannot see the empty sets, here they are in YouTube.
Thanks again. Hope it brings a smile.

Best watched in HQ full screen, but YouTube are close to what the reality is. Their hearts in the right place at least. Now they just have to work with me on wierd formats too!!!



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Posted 11/8/2009 11:36:19 AM


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Armstrong, I'd like to add some supportive suggestions, too.

1. I hope you won't add any reverb to your voice in your tutorials.
2. The babbling brook sound revokes my suspension of disbelief in the ocean farm scenes, so I hope in the final production you are using ocean sounds.
3. The use of an undersized adult horse, presumably as a stand-in for a pony? is SO not working for me. A pony has the unique proportions of a juvenile animal. Or, if it's an adult, then why is Thi Mai riding such a huge steed, when she would be more comfortable riding one sized to her scale? I would like to see you only using horses that are just right for the fairy scale, and rule out any puzzling variations from scale.
4. Here's a minor suggestion: your weapons against the tomb look too new and shiny to be outdoors. Can you apply a little patina, dirt, and weathering?

Obviously, this is an incredible achievement, and so full of things to marvel at.
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Posted 11/8/2009 11:59:05 AM


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Armstrong - i am moved by the presentation - very poetic from the beautiful scenes coupled with the score - the presentation in wide screen really helps capture the details - and what details - really really well painted scenes, the fantastic landscapes captures the imagination and takes me back to younger days reading fantasy novels where such scenes only took place in ones mind

- a masterpiece from a true master!

but i feel bad for that poor horse who was tied to his wagon through all those season changes




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Posted 11/8/2009 12:22:08 PM


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Hi Paumanok.... I love your observations....
But in truth, the others will already know my answers to your queries, well, here are my answers.

1. I hope you won't add any reverb to your voice in your tutorials.

My tutorials effectively are just flat tone, unless I am inside the cathedral or a cave.

2. The babbling brook sound revokes my suspension of disbelief in the ocean farm scenes, so I hope in the final production you are using ocean sounds.

You'd have to take this up with the Chinese Musician who composed the piece. This is a track with water in, nothing more, as I didnt have a composed piece with the murmuring  ocean in the BG.

3. The use of an undersized adult horse, presumably as a stand-in for a pony? is SO not working for me. A pony has the unique proportions of a juvenile animal.



Aaaargh! Well, (sniffle) I whined about this to Reallusion way way back in the very beginings when I was making 2.5D horses using the disney principle (Can be seen in the "Evolution of Thi Mai" (pr. tee-MY.) where I used paper plane objects flickering through frame by frame for a 15 frames a second trial horse animation BEFORE Horses were ever in iClone. Reallusions Horses are all I have. I asked for a Foal.

Having ridden a huge Grey Jumper for some years I myself was miniscule on his back. He was half northern carthorse half cobby.

3a. Or, if it's an adult, then why is Thi Mai riding such a huge steed, when she would be more comfortable riding one sized to her scale?

Thi Mai is only 15 inches tall and this makes the Unicorns only about two feet tall.
Scale in the world of imagination and Theatre does not come into it.
And How Tall is a Unicorn Anyway.
There IS another breed of unicorn thats fawny coloured and they are Dog sized to Thi Mai!!! I'm afraid I am infested with non cornfomities.  

3b. I would like to see you only using horses that are just right for the fairy scale, and rule out any puzzling variations from scale.

Scale is something I always break the rules of.
OK, now for starters...
In the Medieval VIlage, study the horsewalk. By horsewalk I mean the horses two teams of two walking across the bridges.

I was pleased when Cricky noticed the wheels not going round, )I am not there yet fine tuningwise) but NO ONE noticed that on the initial pan away shot the walls of the bridges came right up to almost thier shoulders..........
But in the shot the OTHER sideof the bridge  the horses feather (Foot fluffy hair)  could be seen quite clearly.

I really like the feet of horses walking, in the finals we have hoofbeats also.
I love the designers way of the walk and I wanted to visually keep that celebration IN VIEW.
But the bridge was in the way. So, I too some hours out to rescale, flatten, stretch and widen EVERY bridge in the walk, and rescale and move and reposition everything about the bridhes for no overlap so that I could see the animation of their hooves as well as ther bodies walking.

NO ONE noticed. Thats cool. That was a big risk for me to make the bridges go from 4 feet tall walled to only a foot or so. I self praise myself for angle, cam use and distractional attention to other over emphasised elements made that work. That, or you were all too damned blind to see straight. HAH!

SCALE Ctd.
Also the Mushrooms are ENORMOUS..... in the first BridgeWalk.
AND also the lillies MUST be at LEAST  three feet across under the bridge. Who noticed or cared.
 Any smaller and theyd be invisible and I WNATED the viewer to have the ATMOSPHERE of lillies being there, wether they are lifelike or not, doesnt matter.

I dont do lifellike.
Hitchcock COULD have used real helicopters, but he wanted Theatre and makebelieve.
Same for me. I pretend. I make do. I DONT do real. Else Id hold a Video Camera in my hands.
I like Disney pretending.
I give you  Digital out of scale Flowers, not to have you think they're real, but to let you know flowers were there.

4. Here's a minor suggestion: your weapons against the tomb look too new and shiny to be outdoors. Can you apply a little dirt, and weathering?

I had this discussion with John Martin II when we met in London about thirty years back. . Those weapons are from I imagine WAY way back in iClones history.
I absolutely love them.

In all scenes they are in, they are THE loudest element.
They are like a Marvel Comics articles removed and turned 3D. I ADORE those weapons.
They are unreal, never taken as real objects, hard crisp and loud and where ever theyre put they predominate.
Theatre extreme.
And I used those AND banged up the contrast 11% in cutting AND used hard green lighting on them on set and to me they are EXACTLY what I wanted.
Artificiality and pretend.
I would NOT use realistic ones if they were available because it spoils storytelling.

Its a funny thing, maybe its a generation thing. But I LOVE the theatre feel of iClone
Though I am NOW working on People animation (finally) and Genuine ancient Chinese Garden plans from about 1500BC, for which I'll need LAND SCULPTOR  but THIS will be the only time I have EVER worked for perfect realism as far as I can go anyway.

Thanks for the points anyway. I enjoyed them all. So, in future I wont win Brownie points from you then. I work TOO makeblieve.
Armstrong.

Its a long post but.................................................... we used short words.

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Posted 11/8/2009 1:01:18 PM


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As Wil said, I became totally quiet and immersed in this.  When it was over I sat in my chair for a minute before I felt compelled to do anything else.

I was lost in your world for a few minutes.  Loved it.

And it played fine for me - I did let it cache.

Alley  

  

                               

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Posted 11/8/2009 6:38:15 PM


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Hi Alley!!!! Life's fun!!!!
Some Chatter. A Talkthrough on the way I work, think and assemble!



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