I have to come up to rescue CloneBot Zack.  He is NOT AT ALL what you suggest in your comment about him.   CloneBot Zack is a very, very helpful person and forum moderator, dedicated to watch mainly for CCDs interests, looking for new opportunities for us, creating contests, and promotional events to stimulate content sales.   He is responsive, diligent and a good friend, ready to help and provide what is at his reach!

Of course he is an important person ar R.L. but he is precisely the force pro-CCDs we all need to have in a company which is logically interested in their own business and profit.

I do find a contradiction, but it is in you message.   If you are NOT a registered CCD, you could NOT have the latest plugins and templates, as those are provided UPON Registration, REQUEST and careful review by the R.L CCD program management.

So the question would be:  Where did you get the plugins?   Are you talking of the latest plugins available, or the older versions of it?

As far as I know, you MUST register as a CCD to gain access to the tool download pages.  Clearly you can see R.L. is worried about knowing EXACTLY who is developing and what!

I think you might be over worried too.   No one is going to "eat" from solely selling iClone content!   That's for sure!    Part of the benefit is the joy of contributing to this novel form of creativity, participating with other intelligent and dedicated people working on the same, and making some revenues out of it, but I don't think earnings will be big enough to "live" on it and to buy goodies as Plasma TVs, BMWs or vacations in Florence! 

I don't think, speaking or making hard comments is the way we want this forum to go.   We think this place is for clear, friendly, constructive and positive communications.

Let's keep it this way!  

Mike

Mike Aparicio-Reallusion Certified Innovative Content Developer

Gorz - when you submitted your Giraffe to Reallusion, and they accepted it, that was presumably your CCD "certification". 

The only things I see different from before are this:

1)  If you sell a product on Reallusion, it must not be sold cheaper somewhere else.  If you sell a product somewhere else, but not on Reallusion also - you can charge whatever you want for it.  Reallusion reserve the right to be aware of your store's existence, because you are selling products that represent their product and they would like to protect their customers to some degree.  They already stated that your store, Clones2go and Cool Creators are trusted sellers.

2)  At the same time, anything the other three stores sell, cannot be in any way guaranteed by Reallusion as totally safe and complete product.  Makes sense.

3)  If I decide to open a store, I would have to get Reallusion permission first if I am selling anything that uses the Reallusion provided tools.  I assume textures would not be included in this, nor is anything made in sketchup.

4)  If I submit content to Reallusion, they are going to be much more strict in future on the creative shots used to promote the pack.  The marketing/visual is a big part of selling and poorly done promos will affect sales.  Therefore, guidelines are supplied now on how to create acceptable promos.

5)  Additionally, Reallusion will assist in the promo, if I feel unable to do it...for that they take an additional 20%. 

6)  All content sold through Reallusion now is royalty free.

Unless I am missing something, then I don't really understand how this is very much different before, except the fact that it has now been clearly stated.

And I agree with the others - I do this because I enjoy it and not because I think I will retire on the profits   Its nice pocket money, allows us to buy more Reallusion content without guilt .

Alley

I backup 100% what aknzrdude says about the logical limits to "royalty free" concepts.

I also appreciate a lot Alley's help in clarifying, even more and  saying "nothing has practically changed".  Very right!    This is the rule that got to rule what was already ruled!

But, regarding the tools:  I just made a test, two minutes ago.    I went into the Developer Center Download tools section, without logging in, as a CCD.

I clicked on each and every item in the tools list, old or new, and in all cases I got a message saying this downloads are reserved for Registered CCDs!   the newest tools for G3 creation are even restricted to all CCDs, and must be requested by separate communication with the Developer Center Management.

It is obvious Developer Tools cannot be in the hands of unregistered persons, as they are ALL reserved for properly registered CCDs.

I think it is reasonable R.L. watches for all kind of items developed with tools obtained some other way, and not by registration.

Maybe CloneBot can come up again and stir a little bit this HOT thread!

Finally, boredom has faded away and there is new, fresh fun at the forum!

Mike Aparicio-Reallusion Certified Innovative Content Developer

Hi Akn,

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you what you are saying but even without the royalty free change it would be impossible to police what someone does with a texture after they purchase it. Be it from the Reallusion Content Store or any other store, if the user wants to edit the texture, there really is no way to prevent that.

Say for example someone purchases a full length gown texture but decides that they would also like to make a mini skirt out of it for their new movie. How could you stop them? Of course they can't sell the edited texture or share it with others, but including it in a movie or still image wouldn't be something that could be stopped with or without royalty free.

In fact for many users new to texturing this is a common way to get started. Make some changes to an existing outfit to make a new one. I expect most of us have done that at some point in time.

                                                                

Peter
Forum Administrator

www.reallusion.com