I don`t wish to hi-jack Armstrongs thread but for me the paintings of Brugel hold endless fascination in their detail of 16^th century peasant life and serve to illustrate the type of costumes that, at least, I was thinking about when I posted my comment here yesterday.

I`m very sorry but I`m having a problem posting the link. Part keeps getting converted to a smiley and I don`t know how to correct it.

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Pieter Brugel th Elder on commons.wikimedia. Perhaps there is enough info for you to find the pictures anyway?

Having just viewed this collection of paintings again it struck me that Brugel did not forget the children in his work. There is still no G2 clone cloth specific for Slade, Sarah and Junior body shapes. A disappointment for those of us who bought an expensive G2 Natural Human Base pack. We can force Jack and Jane cloth on to them but it seems a poor compromise. However I tweak the avatar proportions, junior still looks odd when his medieval smock conforms to Jack`s upper chest muscularity.

Geoff, Hi. Here's what I imagine is a refinement of your link.
THE LINK FOR EXAMPLES HERE
Very good. This is exactly the sort of thing.
Also, sorry to be so delayed in replying everybody. This is a bit absorbing, this project and days are like hours so apologies, it's not through ignoring. Just looooong hours.

Mike!
 Regarding dress styles... I was simply looking for general paupery. Workmen's clothing. Ragged dresses, shabby shty dirty muddy torn ragged slobby tattered..... words which come to mind. Sweaty filthy, stained mismatching shawls and robes and poncho styles blankety wraps.  Typified by dress styles ranging in medieval England from the eras 1000ad to about 1700ad.
I have CloneCloth and have made many garments but in truth dress and clothing takes time I couldnt afford on this particular projects' theme. I have a timescale for a book being created as well on another vein.
But there IS a lack of shabby ordinary workmens and womens clothing.  So someone with time can make some sales there in their creation.
Grandeur is all very well.
BUT, DEVELOPERS....
ENGLAND in the Medieval times was MUDDY STREETS, RAIN, filthy gutters full of human body waste and sewage from washer houses for the rich. Wreaking stinking people and sweaty diseased obnoxious individuals.
Not too romantic, but real. 

I mean in one scene if someone was wearing typical 1240 dress and another was wearing 1760's long coats, would anyone tel the difference? This you can get away with in art. It's all simply representative which is why nobody criticises the plants in Disney's work.

ALLEY.... the costumes are great. I've shabbed them down a bit and torn them up some.   Wonderful.

The usual long sweeps I do and the music (Still Danny Elfman in this one, don't yawn.) I use them and sit looking at them sifting out camera angles. And points to move to and from.
Also, its just my way, I sit and watch it again and again and again, and redefine what should be moved, and where the trees need placing better for long sweeps in the finals; where people will loiter an look composed against the buildings; where the light should come from, so that at the start, during and the closing camera paths all see composition with architectural or objective balance.
So that's why the horse is wrong, the cart is misproportioned and etc. I don't fine tune until Ive done the messy bits.
And I study ot over and over and over and over.... moving, shifting  and constantly trying for the Disney principle.
Jus' so's you know.

VISCONTI.
I have sent you email. Thanks for the inclusion  and  featured artist on the front page of the big "R".
The final 10 minute 'short' is delicious.

Also, for those of you who know my Book "The gate Of Imagination" This setting is the opening scene being used for the book now underway. So Chellah and Thi Mai (in true bad tempered Woodlander fashion) step in after the Chinese Exhibition.

It's a shame, because this woman is a heartwarming thing with no malice what so ever.
And it's always nice to knock peoples socks off with a blast of iClone. "Har! Shut the Vagabonds up and silence their warblings." 
But this goes down that avenue that real Artists are quirky extremists.
Otherwise we wouldnt create wierd out of the ordinary inspirations.
Anyway. Another small milestone in the project. iClone being used to touch peoples hearts.

Neil, you're an iClonian ambassador.

You've really touched that ladies heart (and many others on your journeys I expect).

Your iClone project is a great way to promote the stunning artwork. DT