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Installing the plug-in was no problem. There is one issue so far: I can't rectify the character's direction (Floor Adjustment). All I can is adjust "Height". "Left-Right" & "Front-Back" Rotation sliders works almost as a slider "Height", that is up&down. What did I do wrong? Smile

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I personally don't have the camera as of yet, but I am trying out some of the new panels and features for the physics which are in this BETA version.

The new rope function is a really good addition. It is a shame the diameter of the rope isn't editable however.

The newer panels make doing physics editing a bit easier with the Green/Red lettering for active and inactive to let you know what is active or not for switching between physics states throughout the time line, such as Kinematic to Frozen, or whatever the need is for the object chosen.

The program itself does seem to be less prone to crashing that the current release, but as mentioned by someone earlier, it does appear to tax the graphics hard a bit more making it run harder.

Standard compliance to Windows parameters seems to not have changed, such as deleting a file when searching, and then canceling a change altogether, causing an immediate crash when returning back to iClone.

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Dear Users,

Reallusion is continuing to refine the live motion capture experience with iClone 5! As a result of the great deal of hard work and user feedback we have received, we are now well on our way to improving the usability and functionality of personal motion capture in iClone 5.1. Thanks to our work as an official partner with Microsoft, Reallusion is now able to offer an early look at the Kinect SDK Beta experience to all iClone Mocap Plug-in users. Kinect SDK Beta is not for commercial use yet,but youcan use it for animated production and sharing (Microsoft will announce their commercial SDK policy soon). This is a huge step forward towards making Kinect a more fantastic and exceptional mocap animation tool, but certainly not the last.



iClone 5.1 is scheduled to be released in January. As appreciation for our forum users’ enthusiastic support, Reallusion would like to provide you with exclusive early access to the 5.1 Beta version of iClone. Simply follow these instructions below to become one of the first users to experience the new mocap and physics functions in iClone 5!

Download iClone 5.1 Beta

Download iClone 5.1 Patch
http://file.reallusion.com/patch/ic/iC510_Enu_Full_Patch.exe

See the new features about iClone 5.1
http://www.reallusion.com/iclone/iclone_whatsnew_v51.aspx

See the Beta documents for iClone 5.1
http://www.reallusion.com/iclone/help/iclone5/PRO/default.asp?page=20_Physics/Constraint/The_Basic_Workflow_of_Using_Constraint.htm

http://www.reallusion.com/iclone/help/iclone5/PRO/default.asp?page=20_Physics/Setting_States_Keys.htm

http://www.reallusion.com/iclone/help/iclone5/PRO/default.asp?page=08_Animation/Device_Mocap/Using_Body_Command_Feature_to_Preview_or_Record.htm

http://www.reallusion.com/iclone/help/iclone5/PRO/default.asp?page=08_Animation/Device_Mocap/Rectifying_the_Characters_Direction.htm

http://www.reallusion.com/iclone/help/iclone5/PRO/default.asp?page=08_Animation/Device_Mocap/Rectifying_the_Twisting_Legs_in_Full_Body_Mode.htm

http://www.reallusion.com/iclone/help/iclone5/PRO/default.asp?page=08_Animation/Device_Mocap/Activating_the_Foot_Rotation_in_Full_Body_Mode.htm


How to Use Microsoft SDK Beta System for Mocap

Currently, the plug-in version that you use with iClone 5 is from Open NI, which is not compatible with the Microsoft SDK Beta version. Therefore, if you want to use the Microsoft SDK Beta version, you will need to uninstall your current plug-in and re-install the new version of the plug-in. You can resume the Open NI system by doing the same procedure.

Download Mocap Plugin 1.1 – Microsoft SDK beta
http://file.reallusion.com/ic/Mocap_Plug_in110_MS.exe
(compatible with Windows7)

Provide Feedback and Win

Reallusion is eager to collect your real user experience using the Microsoft Kinect SDK Beta for motion capture. From now until January 17th, if you submit your Kinect test video with your comments, you will get the chance to win the upcoming iClone 5.1 content pack “Physics Gears”. Physics Gears is a quintessential set of tools for physics animation in iClone 5, and is one of the most exciting content pack in Q1. Check out the demo video to see the neat features we’ve embedded in this pack.
http://youtu.be/mrHDod6zv5g

Once your submitted video is selected for display on the Reallusion website, you will be awarded a free copy of the Physics Gears content pack. Please post your video with feedback under this form thread.The videos whichdemonstrates the new enhancements like head/wrist movement, half body capture andstable floor alignmentwill be preferred.

Here are some video examples for your reference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOUivtxKU-U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pke0FDhlCFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXP7ZDkyCfI

Looking forward to hearing from you!

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It's a shame it only works on windows 7... I would totally be trying it out right now... guess I'll have to wait until February when Microsoft decides to release the other versions. Doze


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Great enhancements in plug-in! I like them all BigGrin

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It is my (Mocap Plugin 1.1& Microsoft SDK beta 2) test
without any motion edit
,hope you like it!! Tongue

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Kurzal & Johnny,

Thanks for sharing those clips.
They show a lot promise for us mocappers.
Unfortunately I'm in the midst of moving and won't be able to test drive the new kinect capture for a couple of weeks... Drats!
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Johnny & Kurzal

Thanks for sharing these great videos. Smile

If it's possible, can you help add the footagesabout the live captures in?
With these footages, people can feel how the virtual character syncs with live human's motions. If you don't record the footageswhen you produce the animation,additional live human footages with depth camview port as behind the scene will be also helpful. So,general peoplecanrealize it'sdone by motion capture, but not just the motion library.

Much appreciated
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It's a shame it only works on windows 7


In fact this isn´t true. At least not for the SDK itself, but, sadly, for the RL installer.

Background:
The Plugin you download from RL really consists of 2 seperate files to be installed.
The Plugin on the one hand, and the MS SDK on the other hand.


The SDK itself can easily be installed under Windows XP:

How to do:
1. Grab a copy of the SDK from Microsoft
here you choose the 32 Bit Version to download

2. You need a little tool named ORCA
here you can download it for example

ORCA is a tool from Microsoft for changing entries in MSI Installer files, like the SDK is one. You can see it on the extension .MSI
With Orca, you can now change values for the installer.

3. Open Orca, and inside Orca you can now open the SDK MSI file. Like you would open a Word Dokument inside Word.

4. On the left side ("Tables"), look for "LaunchCondition" (it is about in the middle of the collumn)

5. Change the Condition Value on on the right side of the window.

Originally, it is: Installed OR VersionNT >= 601

Change the 601 (wich is actually the real versionnumber of Windows7), to 0 for example.

6. Save your MSI file.

7. Close Orca

8. Install the SDK under XP Smile


Now you will get installed the SDK under XP. No problem with this.

The whole thing takes about 10 seconds.



Now to the remaining problem:

As I´ve stated above, the RL install file itself is also doing a version check. And RL isn´t using MSI install files.

So, we can´t patch the RL install file, thus resulting in the Plugin will not get installed.

If RL support would support us with a Plugin Installer only with the plugin (without the SDK installer), and without a version controll itself, it would run with Windows XP.




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I was able to download and install with little issue once I removed the old one. I do in fact have WSindows 7 and as such, the reallusion installer did function. All my pc's currently have windows 7 so I have no other o/s to test it on. I shall post some videos pulled with it in the next day or so

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Sadly I'm running XP Pro so have been having a few technicalities.

Had to return the Kinect so have nothing to update or share.

Sorry guys Sad

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