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RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Peter Edwards — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:26:33 GMT

[quote][b]Armstrong (7/14/2008)[/b]

And..... just to re-address an issue I had earlier?
In the demo screen shots at the start of this post, the village?
Is this an integral part of the new iClone or is this an existing or "soon to be available" pack?
I see no info on it at all. Its very attractive.
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Hi Neil,

There has been no official announcement on iClone 3 content packs yet, nor what content will ship within iClone 3 itself. As soon as this is known I'll let everyone know.

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Peter Edwards — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:20:38 GMT

[quote][b]BeruPly (7/17/2008)[/b][hr]:w00t: oh, that is just [b]1 day[/b] before I leave for a trip without internet for 3 weeks, it will be this friday:rolleyes: right?[/quote]

Friday (tomorrow) is the day we will be releasing full details of iClone 3's incredible new feature list. This will be followed by screenshots, example videos and hints and tips etc in the build up to the full release.

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

BeruPly — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:55:08 GMT

:w00t: oh, that is just [b]1 day[/b] before I leave for a trip without internet for 3 weeks, it will be this friday:rolleyes: right?

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Peter Edwards — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:18:19 GMT

[quote][b]jpiazzo (7/16/2008)[/b][hr]And so, news this week means what? Friday? :D[/quote]

Friday is a good guess. :D

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Peter Edwards — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:14:53 GMT

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RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

stuckon3d — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:26:44 GMT

[quote][b]jpiazzo (7/16/2008)[/b][hr]And so, news this week means what? Friday? :D[/quote]I know! the suspense is killing me too! Show some stuff already REallusion! :D

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

jpiazzo_20090922180848311 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:17:57 GMT

And so, news this week means what? Friday? :D

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Armstrong — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:13:14 GMT

[quote][b]Peter Edwards (7/13/2008)[/b][hr]Thanks for good suggestions. In IClone 3.0 the Motion Editor is no longer needed as all editing will be done directly from within iClone in the preview window. This way you will have all your props already in position for reference purposes.[/quote]If THIS is the case..... and quite frankly the motion editor as functional as it was, it was a pain in the butt, but if THIS IS the case [i]I dont mind if the next version takes till Christmas[/i]... I think alot of people would think the same if they were in the commercial world with this softare. Time is money. If the motion editor as it is as an external element has been abolished and character location reference can now be achieved form inside the iClone software itself, this is [b]priceless [/b]to anyone who's time conscious and charges by the hour.Excelling news.And..... just to re-address an issue I had earlier? In the demo screen shots at the start of this post, [b]the village[u][/u][/b]? Is this an integral part of the new iClone or is this an existing or "soon to be available" pack?I see no info on it at all. Its very attractive.

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

power — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:31:35 GMT

H All:[quote][b]Peter Edwards (7/13/2008)[/b][hr]Thanks for good suggestions. In IClone 3.0 the Motion Editor is no longer needed as all editing will be done directly from within iClone in the preview window. This way you will have all your props already in position for reference purposes.[/quote]This are pretty good news regarding the Editor! Laterp.d.Some moderator I want to change my nick!! PM with instructions please.

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Sifr — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:13:45 GMT

How about a video update to see the app in action

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Armstrong — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:04:40 GMT

Good Afternoon Good People... :)IN THE FIRST PICTURE: Stunning shot. BUT.... The village!!! [b]Is this a standard feature of the new iClone - The Village [/b] of iClone initially, or is this simply a pack external installed for the scene to display the viewpoint and backdrop etc...It's very beautiful...

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

jpiazzo_20090922180848311 — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:18:48 GMT

Hey Rock don't give up yet! But I know exactly where you are coming from. Iclone's a cool program right? If it would just do this or that a little better......AHHH!!!!These types of programs drive me crazy, they show so much promiss..but often fall short just enough in certain areas to keep you on the edge of your seat for the next great fix.Peter is right, you can't make all users happy...I for one do not care if they made a big pre-buy offer because I would never buy software at this stage of development before it is released and reviewed. That is not a knock at Iclone - few companies (mabe Adobe, or Auto Desk, or even Pinnacle) have the kind of track record that can get my money in advance of a release. In fact, an August release of 3.0 means I may not take the dive until October (or at least until I hear from alot of users about true funtionality and stability. Until then I will just mess around with other programs like Moviestorm and Antics3D along with Iclone...somebody is going to hit that sweet spot of funtionality and features soon.I am pulling for Iclone frankly - I like this program alot. And 3.0 sounds like a KILLER upgrade.I'll hang in there, but I do look forward to a list of features soon.JP

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Peter Edwards — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:37:10 GMT

Hi Rock,

Your points are well made and thank you for giving the feedback. I can't really speak for sales and marketing but I think a decision was made to wait until everything was in place before official announcements were made as to release dates and pricing.

People react to these kind of decisions in different ways. While some will want early information on release dates, pricing and be understanding if things change, others will want fixed dates that they can rely on to be accurate and get angry when things get postponed. As I mentioned before you really can't please everyone sadly.

I fully understand your unhappiness but I do hope you will give iClone 3.0 a chance. Official information will begin next week so hopefully you will get the answers you need then.

Thanks again for sharing your views. I appreciate you taking the time to explain your feelings.

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

RockWebcast — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:52:24 GMT

Peter,You missed a key point. Moving release dates because development over promised happens all the time. That's only a symptom of the problem that's eroded my confidence.I'll try to explain.What's eroded my confidence is Reallusion's inability to provide information for one thing. The other is the sales department. If a sales department looks at a product as great as the one you've described is just around the corner they immediately start a full court press on sales. Pinnacle Studio offered a handsome discount two months before Studio 12 came out. They even said in their pre-release offer that actual deliver date could vary significantly. But see their sales people were confident it would happen. The company itself knew that by offering loyal existing customers a discount they'd keep their market base and make even more money on add-ons etc. I just use them as an example near and dear to Reallusion, not revolutionary, just standard marketing and sales.Now inversely a sales team isn't going to start pushing something until they believe development is actually going to deliver sometime in the near future.I also don’t really need to hear how hard the team's working. They're not doing it for free and I've shown my appreciation and respect for they're work over a thousand times over $$.You want to impress your existing client base and really see how well you can expect 3.0 to do? Email us an exclusive limited time offer to buy in advance for a significant savings. Sadly, given the prices in the Reallusion Content Store I don't expect to see any such thing or to get much of a discount at all. It's much more likely I'll find another hobby because this one's turned out to be too expensive and actually kind of frustrating.

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Peter Edwards — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:44:33 GMT

Hi Rock,

Sorry to hear you are feeling disappointed with the release date of iClone 3.0.

It's a bit of no win situation for Reallusion really because when no information is given there are constant calls for a release timeframe. When July was given it was done so in good faith but it was an estimated date because at that time development was still in full flow.

Now at the end of the day iClone 3.0 can't be released until it is ready because again there would be an outcry if it was released to meet a certain date but was full of bugs. I can tell you that nobody is sitting around killing time. The team is working flat out to get this amazing new version of iClone to you as soon as possible.

Next week will see the first official updated information on iClone 3.0 so please check back then and see what is coming and what iClone 3 can do for you. I know it is annoying to see release dates change but sometimes it is inevitable I'm afraid. This is only ever done to bring you the best product possible.

Thanks for your feedback. :)

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

RockWebcast — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:39:12 GMT

Seriously, August now . . . . enough already! I've been standing by for this upgrade so long I've gone from excited, through disappointed to where now I've just lost interest.I spent what I consider a large chunk of money for what was supposed to be a cool hobby. Then you started taunting us with grand tails of great things to come. All the while making it clear you'll be reaching back into my wallet IF you ever do actually deliver on a single promise.I'd have been perfectly happy with incremental upgrade for 2.5. In fact as I said months ago, if you beefed up the motion editor so I don't feel like I'm waiting on one of the pee and pray pregnancy tests every time I try to move a character, I'd be deliriously happy. In fact, I'd pay a few more of my hard earned dollars just for that. With a decent motion editor, I could start having fun with iClone 2.5.Now it's "August" and you are still not saying anything about pricing. The fact you're not offering a break for pre-orders tells me 1. You're not going to give those of us that bought from you before a discount worth mentioning.2. You don't have confidence in your ability to actually deliver on any of these promises anytime soon.

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

JMartin — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:47:26 GMT

Hi Everyone. Thanks for your patience as we fine-tune iClone 3. Certainly, the wait has been long and soon we'll be ready to unveil the evolution. More screenshots, video examples and feature details are going to publish in the coming days. The update on the launch of the software will be the first week in August. Hang tight and stay tuned for more updates.

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

simon_20090922185953948 — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:55:42 GMT

Looks awesome!

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

ingie01 — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:32:46 GMT

Stability, that's what I want! Test away until there are no bugs. I would like to start a project but I am waiting for more details about compatibility with what I have purchased already.Any comments concerning any of this?

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

alemar — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:24:11 GMT

Hi PeteSorry my capitals! Just was turn on and after typing I didn´t type again.I didnt hurt your ears man! ahaha.I want your ears live for you listen news about iClone 3 and you tell for us!!!So, at now no news about IClone 3...no screenshots, no information about the features...no release date...ok.Alemar

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Peter Edwards — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:50:58 GMT

Hi everyone,

Firstly easy on those capitals Alemar. You're hurting my ears here. ;)

Now what can I tell you. Well development is in the latter stages now but there is still some work to do and bugs to catch. I can assure you the team is working flat out to bring you all iClone 3.0 as soon as possible.

There isn't an official release date as yet, nor details on pricing but as soon as I hear anything you'll hear it too. It won't be too long before there is more news. Honest. :crazy:

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

alemar — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:35:56 GMT

YES! WHERE IS ICLONE 3??? NEW ANNOUCEMENTS, BETA TEST? PLEASE SOME FEEDBACK RL!Alemar

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

davidjosue007 — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:04:02 GMT

[b]Tuday is July, 1st... [/b]Could we hope finally a countdown to the exit of iclone 3?I am eager to own the software and start my new projects

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Peter Edwards — Sat, 24 May 2008 20:08:01 GMT

Hi chadelaud,

Thanks for your comments. They are much appreciated. :)

Reallusion do indeed offer the discounts to all iClone 2 users.

I would expect the use of 3DXchange to continue in iClone 3.0. 3DXchange has proven an invaluable tool for iClone users so this facility will certainly be required.

Although there are no plugins available for the products you mention there is already a good degree of intergration via 3DXchange which enables output from programs like Poser and Carrara to be used quite easily. iClone 3.0 will also add more detailed customization of characters lessening the need for 3rd party software.

Stay tuned for more information soon on the exciting new features of iClone 3.0.

[quote][b]chadelaud (5/24/2008)[/b][hr]Hi,

I hope a good discount for all the users of Iclone 2,5 and not only for those who buy the product now !

Is there a possibility for an integration of 3dXchange with Iclone 3 ?

In my opinion there is no reason to have two differents softs.

I think Iclone needs more integration and more interactivity with 3D & 2D programs like : Carrara 6, POSER 7, Maya 2008, Zbrush, Photoshop CS3, Illustrator CS3, Corel Draw X4. This interactivity should enlarge the possibilities for iclone.

It should be a good idea if we could directly load in Iclone an OBJ or a CR2... file without the necessity of a conversion.

The integration with iclone of a special texture studio should be usefull.

Regards
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RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

chadelaud — Sat, 24 May 2008 18:51:20 GMT

Hi,I hope a good discount for all the users of Iclone 2,5 and not only for those who buy the product now !Is there a possibility for an integration of 3dXchange with Iclone 3 ?In my opinion there is no reason to have two differents softs.I think Iclone needs more integration and more interactivity with 3D & 2D programs like : Carrara 6, POSER 7, Maya 2008, Zbrush, Photoshop CS3, Illustrator CS3, Corel Draw X4. This interactivity should enlarge the possibilities for iclone.It should be a good idea if we could directly load in Iclone an OBJ or a CR2... file without the necessity of a conversion.The integration with iclone of a special texture studio should be usefull.Regards

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Peter Edwards — Sun, 18 May 2008 08:22:44 GMT

Pricing has yet to be announced for iClone 3.0. The release is still a couple of months away so if you purchase v2.5 now you will be offered a good discount on upgrading to iClone 3.0 but at present what this will be is not known sadly. More news coming soon.

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

VlaamsMike — Sun, 18 May 2008 05:33:25 GMT

Are there any details on pricing/upgrades? I have only just discovered iClone (having wasted years struggling with Poser). I want to buy, but do I buy now or wait for the next version?

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

hmadden — Sun, 04 May 2008 19:13:17 GMT

What will the cost be to upgrade to 3.0??

Hank

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

BeruPly — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:18:45 GMT

more, more, more ;)

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

duchess110 — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:21:14 GMT

It looks amazing :Wow:

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

shalako42 — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:09:44 GMT

Well It certainly looks impressive from the screenshots I hope any bugs are ironed out before the July release. In fact I don't mind waiting a little longer than July if it means a better and stable product. :):):):)

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Capemedia — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:18:45 GMT

[quote][b]ReallusionTeam (4/18/2008)[/b][hr]More informaton on iClone 3 - http://www.animizemedia.com/wordpress/?p=73

[/quote]

Well this confirms that my main project will wait for iClone 3 :D

Also July, I can't believe that the release is going to be then amazing, and whatever the cost I'm buying it :P

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

shygirl — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:16:01 GMT

Some very, very impressive features showing for version 3.0. :w00t:

Not long to wait now either......Looking forward to the launch in July

Shy

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

davidjosue007 — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:13:17 GMT

Myself, I love the new interface already ... kind of graphite ... I find it absolutely gorgeous ... It highlights 3D Real-time Viewer (Preview Window). I hope that we will also be entitled to a brand new splash screen and why not a new logo !

The new features are also very promising! I wonder whether iclone 3 will introduce new characters, I mean G3 character ?

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

JMartin — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:13:12 GMT

More informaton on iClone 3 - http://www.animizemedia.com/wordpress/?p=73

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Capemedia — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:59:01 GMT

First look is very interesting :D

Couple of things caught my eye:-

Scene Manager - Could this be an individual scene management tool?

Props - Parent Menu for props, not part of Scene menu?

The Fly and Walk icons - Possible camera animations?

Undo buttons on the control menu - Are those undo buttons?

Quick buttons - For camera and shading?

Waiting in anticipation.

Cape :)

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

mrjrm — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:23:28 GMT

Looks amazing, but I'm "officially" at the "I'll believe it when I see it" stage... Or in other words, I want to play with it!!! LOL!

Can't wait!!! :w00t:

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

davidjosue007 — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:54:08 GMT

WOW, SUPER, THAT IS GREAT !!!!!!!! :D

RE: iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

shygirl — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:10:39 GMT

Wow!!! Looks incredible

Shy

iClone 3.0 - First Screenshots

Peter Edwards — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:48:05 GMT

2008 will see the arrival of a whole new iClone.

Take a look at some incredible screenshots of this amazing new version of iClone in action. More to come soon.

(Please Note: iClone 3.0 is still in development. All features are subject to change before release)