Hi,

After a few months of IndigoRT testing, It should be interesting to have some iClone users feedback about IndigoRT and its usage combined with iClone.

Please be sincere. You can use multiple choices if you want.

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I voted, but I was missing some choices. The Indigo renderer never claimed to be a replacement of iClone's native renderer and was never advertised as real-time. The idea was to give another render option.

The main problem to me is not so much the render time involved, but that it is completely impractical for animation, which is still the main purpose of iClone. Except for very simply scenes, the Indigo projects and RAM requirements are so huge that unless you have your own render farm it is just not feasible. This has already been extensively discussed and documented.

Indigo is also unable to make use of some of the efficiencies implemented in iClone, such as trees. I had a scene with quite a number of trees and I had to kill Indigo because it apparently faithfully tried to represent each tree in all its polygonic glory (at least that's what it looked like). That eats RAM very quickly.

Now if you just want to do stills, the story is different. I've seen some very nice renders that really bring out the power of Indigo.

Since I do animation and I'm not really into hyperrealism, but rather the representation of reality in a particular way (like a painting), I have began to appreciate the improvements in iClone's native renderer. I look at it from an artistic perspective: do I like the look. I'm not so much interested in whether it's physically accurate.

I hope RL will do as intended and pursue other render plugins more geared at animation.

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My opinion , RL should learn from DAZ
Iray is a very great Render without limitations and very nice integrated in the DAZ Studio
Nice looking results immediately if you press the render button .
And I already say,  without any  limeitation... . Meshlight,  SSS , render as Movie and so on ...
and all for FREE

I have lost my interest  an Indigo because Iray impress me more. 
I do render my Animation as usual in iClone, but for stills I will use Iray

I wish we would have all  these  like in DAZ

I hope RL will do as intended and pursue other render plugins more geared at animation.         

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Agree with Animagic.
I think there should be a poll option : "The indigo plugin is a crude half assed attempt at interfacing with Indigo"
Let me qualify that option -
1) It takes eons to export even a 250 frame animation. 2 hours to "export" the thing to Indigo is ridiculous.
2) Not to mention HD space needed, even before the final images are rendered.
3) A possible bug has not been looked into or fixed, whereby if you use sub-div on your characters, the exporter quits randomly during the export (somewhere around frame 25 or 40 or 80), leaving you stranded with no option but to start from where you left off.
4) If you have the misfortune of encountering the situation in step 3 above, then prepare to manually rename output files, because the naming convention will output, say frame 40 as 0001 not 0040.

I see it as a valiant FIRST EFFORT at integrating with a 3rd-party renderer.
There are still numerous performance and efficiency gains that can be made, and we as a community had a lot to learn too.

One nit-pick... Don't confuse PBR shaders ray tracing.  I see where they can sound similar, but PBR (like what you get from Allegorithmic's Substance Designer and Substance Painter) does not do diffraction and unlimited reflections like Indigo will.  PBR still takes a lot of "shortcuts" to make it possible to render a scene in realtime.

I'll go vote now.

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I agree with the majority of animagic's post.
I use Indigo for stills, but for rendering animation, Indigo is not a viable solution. Aside from gobbling up system resources & prolonged render times, the bugs just make it intolerable.

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